All data modellers want to translate the business needs into a logical data model. Yet, communication gaps between business and IT have historically hindered the development of efficient, aligned solutions. In this presentation Remco will explain the journey towards the Ensemble Logical Model and how to engage the business on this path. The use of the 6 ELM artifacts to be used in the workshops will guide both data modelers and business. As a bonus Remco will discuss the option to have a GPT based upon a specific LLM help in the whole process.